Prepping the new one; Lets decide!

[cole617]

Bulk & then cut: Whether or not I use tren & mast in the cut is all dpending on if acne is in control..


BULK: (12 weeks)

Prop 300mg ew (1-4)
Test Enanthate 600mg/ew (1-12)
Primo depot 400mg/ew (1-20)
EQ 600mg/ew (1-? at least 16)


Cut12-20)
anavar 50mg/ed (12-20)
primo 400mg/ew (1-20)
test prop 600mg/ew (12-20)
T4 100,200,300,300mcg (ramp up each week, then ramp down same way- weeks 12-20)


This is whats up to the acne:

either just run the EQ staright through or:

tren ace 225-30mg/ew
mast-p 300mg/ew

(var,primo & prop would still be running)


HCG (from day 1- until the end; 250iu/eod)
HGH 3iu/ed

IGF1lr3(pre,mid & post cycle; On wout days 40mcg (20am/pwo split)

Pct:

aromasin 25,25,25,12.5,12.5
nolva 20,20,20,10,10



Supps:

labrada EFA blend (3,6 & 9)
superpump pre wout
Creatine monohydrate 5g (am & pwo)
waximaze-IDS (during wout )
amino fuel 15,000mg during wout (with waximaze)
Liver RX 6 pills ed (am & pm split)
MHP active multivitamin (4 pills ed)
Emergenc-e (1/ed)
Cissus rx (4/ed)
liquid glucosamine/chondrition (1 serving)

Protein:
Smart Gainer by IDS
Whey Isolate by IDS
Syntha-6 by BSN

[flex95]

damn your on a ton of shit bro lol. looks like a pretty decent cycle

[Unleashed]

It all looks good bro, definitely try to get the Tren in there while cutting if acne agrees with you. Best of luck on a phenomenal looking summer!

-Unleashed

[mateo112]

you are gonna run the superpump and creatine while on cycle if i understand it correctly????

[cole617]

I run those supps all the time.

[ajdos]

Looks like a decent cycle- I am just wondering is the tren or the masteron or both that give you the ac?

[cole617]

Originally Posted by ajdos

Looks like a decent cycle- I am just wondering is the tren or the masteron or both that give you the ac?

Both; The higher androgens seem to do it.

[ajdos]

Originally Posted by cole617

Both; The higher androgens seem to do it.

Its odd- tren elevates progestins and prolactin- so caber would help there.
Usually Masteron elevates DHT which would mean finasteride could really help there- but I lean towards the tren as the main culprit-
Have you run them seperately and still got ac?

[cole617]

You see, Thats what I thought. But, I kept getting feedback that those chems wouldn't help- with the acne. I know that elevated DHT & estrogen is usually what causes acne,but a cycle revolving around anavar (DHT der.) & test (EQ as well)-with no ai or serms- caused very little acne for me. When I get into PCT(now), or drop to a cruising dose, this is when acne is the worst; Ifigure this is from estrogen rebound. I run a smart PCT & HCG the whole time I am on, so its out of my control. (I just wanted to give you some backround info)

[cole617]

Even though I am anti-oral -with the exeption of var- I am considering a VERy short run of 50mg dbol at the beg. of the bulk- The dbol I have is calling me...It would never be longer than 3-4 weeks tops.