new cycle after new year

**lothar2812** · #1 (**permalink**) 11-29-2007, 11:23 PM

ok so im finishing up my cycle now and currently doing pct but i am trying to get my next cycle together so i can have it ready ahead of time so i can get my gear together as well as cash. so i have lay out of what it would be like.

dont know if many of u know much aobut me since this wasnt my main board until about a month or 2 ago but here it is

im on my 7th cycle and this wouldbe my 8th
have run test e, test p, tren a, tren e, EQ, winny inject, winny oral, liquid dbol, hcg clen, ephedra, sust 250, deca for like 4 weeks but shit happened.. and i think i covered them all

but here is the lay out. i would be running test c, tren a, EQ, dbol, winny and mast as well as clen

i attached a Word file so that it is easier to understand

20 weeks total if u include the pct weeks so basically 16 weeks then pct

weeks 1-10
test c 750
EQ 600mg
clen at 80-120mcg a day 2 weeks on/off

weeks 1-8
tren 7mg 4x week

weeks 1-6 (maybe 1-4)
d-bol 50mg a day.

weeks 11-16
test c 500mg
EQ400mg up till week 15 though
winny 50mg a day
masteron 100mg 3x week

start HCG maybe around week 7 or 8 then pct with clomid and probably nolva for 3-4 weeks

my main goals are to get big tight and ripped haha like most peoples are. but im figuring out if i should try a show again and this is kind of like one that i would like to work up to/enter..

but be harsh if u must .. cause the comments are welcomed nice or not..haha

but i also attached a file like i said up above so it has a better layout of my cycle so u can understand it better.

**mateo112** · #2 (**permalink**) 12-04-2007, 05:29 PM

what are your current stats brother.

from what i can see, it looks like you have things under control.

**krzna** · #3 (**permalink**) 12-04-2007, 09:03 PM

lots of compounds on there, here are a few observations

run a steady dose of test, no point starting high then dropping to 500. keep it 750, if anything bump to a gram.

same goes with EQPoise

I would'nt run Clen and EQP at the same time , but that's just me, there are some who do.

The masteron and winny is good if you are at a low BF to start off. Otherwise save it for another cycle after a month. A good short ester 6 weeker would be good.

HCG dose is ok 250iux2 times a week.

If you ask me close up your cycle with test prop. So effectively run 750mg test cyp and maybe 75mg EOD test prop.

Keep the DBOL to 4 weeks. 6 weeks only if you must. Again if you want to keep the leanness 10mg nolva with DBOL - again this is just me, there are people who don't bloat on dbol.

My cycle on your terms would be this

Week 1-5 Dbol 35mg (or) 50mg/ed
Week 1-16 Test Cyp 750mg/week
Week 1-13 EQP 600mg/week
Week 12-16 Test prop EOD 75mg
Week 10-16 Tren A 75mg EOD
Week 8-16 HCG 250iusx2ice/week
Week 17-18 Nolva 40mg Clomid 150mg and 100mg
Week 19 Nolva 20mg Clomid 75mg
Week 20 Nolva 20mg
Week 21 nolvadex (optional)

Let me know your bodyfat - conditioning and maybe we can talk about how you can incorporate other compounds into this cycle.

**lothar2812** · #4 (**permalink**) 12-09-2007, 02:12 AM

well im thinking of switching the winny to anavar

and im going to keep my levels the same throught the entire cycle

my bodyfat is either between 15-18% most of the year. i usually then drop it down to below 12% around summer time but this year im leaning towards dropping it sooner and staying leaner from this point on. so when i start this cycle come feb i will be lower then 15%..

i usually do cardio 4-5 times a week and have an eliptical at home

**krzna** · #5 (**permalink**) 12-10-2007, 08:35 PM

much better...run anavar over winny and at that bf i think it would be very worth it.

Ahhh anavar

**lothar2812** · #6 (**permalink**) 12-11-2007, 04:18 PM

haha thanks

i never did anavar. so i dont know what to expect..lol

have done both types of winny but i think i will go with the var

but yeah thanks for the help.. will post a log when i start in little over a month

**krzna** · #7 (**permalink**) 12-11-2007, 04:26 PM

anavar is the elixir of the gods man, you will LOVE anavar.

**scottish** · #8 (**permalink**) 12-15-2007, 03:27 AM

Ive heard nothing but good stuff about anavar. Cant wait to run a cycle to see what all the hubub is

**Dr X** · #9 (**permalink**) 12-15-2007, 05:39 PM

I would not run the d-bol, may var if you want an oral. I would not change the doses of test and EQ. Keep them the same all the way through. I assume you mean 70mg on tren, 75mg is easier to measure in most cases. Suggestions on the tren. Run it in the last weeks of the cylce. I would say the last 10 weeks. And add the masteron for the last 6 weeks as well. This whole it dosen't work unless your bf is single digits is a myth. It works and will lean and harden you up. You could add the winny there at the end as well but to me it's over kill. But you have to understand. I am no fan of orals. I have also always been a fan of running HCG through out cycle starting in week 3.

**lothar2812** · #10 (**permalink**) 12-16-2007, 04:04 AM

ok new lay out...lol

im not running tren at the begining with eq

injects
weeks 1-16 test 750mg
weeks 1-10/12 EQ 600mg
weeks 11-16 tren 75mg EOD
weeks 13-18 mast 100mg EOD
thinking of doing it 2 weeks after last test e shot to get as lean as possible.. but it might be changed to week 11-16..

orals
week 1-5 50mg dbol??
weeks 11-15 var

pct
nolva 40/40/20/20
clomid 40/40/20/20

if i used hch it might be aroudn week 8

i know this is a heavy cycle.. im doing this to lead up to a possible show in a year. .im trying to get in show shape.. but im not going to do one for a year or so.. so im using time to get used to my body for dieting for one and know how to change things during a diet..