Steroids and Opiates

**ruffdogg22** · #1 (**permalink**) 01-26-2008, 06:56 AM

Do u guys know if it is safe to be on a cycle of test and be taking Norcos daily. Does it inhibit gains or is it bad for the body?

**cole617** · #2 (**permalink**) 01-27-2008, 04:20 PM

It doesn't inhibit gains...But you need to go to detox,bro....Taking opiates ED is never good...Trust me , I know.

**beeman** · #3 (**permalink**) 01-29-2008, 05:24 PM

Yeah the hydro itself isnt going to inhibit gains, but you have to watch with the tylenol in the norcos, especially if you are on orals. If you take the norcos just to feel good every day, yeah that is a problem, but it is much different if you are taking them for chronic pain or a tooth extraction or whatever. I have chronic pain and I have been on opites daily for a long time and they do not affect my gains, but my situation may be different than yours.

**Brock Samson** · #4 (**permalink**) 01-30-2008, 06:14 AM

i think that shit always keeps you from training hard and eating right.

**stone420** · #5 (**permalink**) 02-02-2008, 05:38 AM

it's counter productive to take something thats breaks you down when trying to build yourself up. I have done pretty much everything out there and lots of it.When i quit and made the decision that i wanted to be big that was the end of tearing myself down. i was 32 and fat. i lost 37 lbs and in 3.5 years later have gained back 30 of solid muscle. it's just a matter of discipline and priorities at this time in your life. So which is more important to you? You can stay the same or you can make the change. Don't get me wrong bro if you can't tell by my name i like a buzz myself. mine just don't break me down physically.

**Jester** · #6 (**permalink**) 02-11-2008, 04:24 AM

long term opiate use suppresses natural test production

**cole617** · #7 (**permalink**) 03-12-2008, 01:58 AM

That is true- about NATURAL test production; I abused opiates through puberty & I offset it by years & my natural test levels never got much higher than the low end of normal.

**onemuscledbeagle** · #8 (**permalink**) 03-12-2008, 04:36 PM

First of all, why are you on the opiates? Pain?

Secondly, yes, the adrenal axis will be affected by the long term use of opiates. Just think of it like this, if a drug binds your shit up and you need meds to move your bowels, their are other systems including the adrenal axis that are being affected as well.

Another point that needs to be made is that training is also a state of mind and requires your purest of concentration. With opiates on board you are not able to think and focus clearly on the mission at hand.

**scottish** · #9 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 03:44 AM

Do you think this guy is just clowning? First post, and asks if opiates is bad for your body??

**onemuscledbeagle** · #10 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 04:20 AM

Not sure Scottish. He hasn't reposted. Perhaps he didn't hear what he was wanting to hear.