winny and the liver

**flex95** · #1 (**permalink**) 04-16-2008, 08:54 PM

Hey fellas. Need some advice. My manager has a "fatty liver". He was looking to take winny. Would any of you recommend or not recommend this? please give me some feedback that I can pass on to him. I didnt want to steer him in the wrong direction. His stats are around 5'10, 175-180 lbs. Id say about 12-15% bf. Lifts prob 5 times a week. Pretty clean diet. Thanks fellas

**onemuscledbeagle** · #2 (**permalink**) 04-16-2008, 10:39 PM

Flexy
What is the fatty liver a result of: alcohol, biliary, etc...
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**Jester** · #3 (**permalink**) 04-17-2008, 01:20 AM

^^^ roger that.... need to know what has caused the fatty liver.

and at 5-10 and 175-180... I'd suggest some test... to add some size.... not winny.
but, that's just me

**flex95** · #4 (**permalink**) 04-17-2008, 04:50 AM

roger over and out...lol. I think the liver problem runs in the family but also he said it could be from past alcohol. I suggested some test and dbol too but he said he wanted some winny to trim up.

**Jester** · #5 (**permalink**) 04-17-2008, 08:03 AM

roger roger....... in that case, I wouldn't "recommend" anything.
But, if he's dead set on running winny.... 50g a day... no more than that.
As you already know... winny won't trim anyone up... it will just make him dense/hard.

**onemuscledbeagle** · #6 (**permalink**) 04-17-2008, 05:56 PM

Flexy
With an underlying fatty liver, I question cirrhosis that their might be in the background. I would be careful recommending anything oral. Personally, I would want to know what his liver function tests are showing. Do you know if he is doing anything to treat the fatty liver? Any OTC like milk thistle?
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**Dr X** · #7 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 12:48 AM

EEEkkkkkkkkkkk

I don't like it when there are liver issues and you are taking orals. He should have is values checked first.

**Backlum Chaam** · #8 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 02:34 PM

Winny recently raised my liver levels 5 times what they should be. I've been clean and sober for 6 years too.

I don't like giving medical advice, but he should stick with something that's not methylated.

**SLICK** · #9 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 03:16 PM

I agree........................I dont think I would do any orals!!! With questionable liver issues...Why add any more stress to it. Tell him to nut up and inject! And stop being a pussy about useing injectables!!!

**layzie31** · #10 (**permalink**) 04-18-2008, 09:07 PM

or use NOTHING lol and work harder

b/c ur liver is kinda important... Sucks but if ya already know of preexisting condition ya gots to be even more currrful. At his size if he switched up his workout to a good circuit with cardio for 6 weeks ate clean, he would harden up with the quickness. But most woulnt listen and i prob wouldnt either lol so purty much what everyone else said.
layz