Can anyone tell me about HAVOC?

**Guardian** · #1 (**permalink**) 06-30-2008, 11:07 PM

Has anyone tried this stuff and what results if any did you have?

Thanks

**Thor** · #2 (**permalink**) 07-10-2008, 10:15 PM

Worked for me. About a 5lb. gain in LBM. Have a PCT set-up for this stuff though.

**mateo112** · #3 (**permalink**) 07-10-2008, 11:00 PM

have heard that is is comparable to pheraplex or superdrol but no personal experiance with it .

**Teamorbit** · #4 (**permalink**) 07-12-2008, 07:21 AM

Its a really great product. IMO better than Epistane. Type of gains are comparable to Superdrol (lean and dry) your looking at a solid 6-8 lb

**Kruzzer** · #5 (**permalink**) 07-14-2008, 12:44 AM

Thumbs up for the H....the stuff is good......I have put 3 guys that call themselves natural on this and all make excellent gains for an otc product.

**Teamorbit** · #6 (**permalink**) 07-14-2008, 06:54 AM

Yeah I lover the stuff. Dont get me wrong Im not bashing Epistane but the ingredients on Havoc has been cinsitantly great. There rep is solid. Been tested by Patrick Arnold as well.

**Guardian** · #7 (**permalink**) 07-14-2008, 06:45 PM

Thanks for the help. I will try it soon. What typr of pct do I need?

**Teamorbit** · #8 (**permalink**) 07-14-2008, 06:48 PM

I would run a SERM. Toremfeine would be fine but I believe you can do over the counter as well since this product is mild.